Thanks Aesa for answering my question. I see what you are saying there. I was just wondering how Archon's plan affected your perception of him, or if it did. It helps to pin down what kind of player you are, since I'm not familiar with you. Yep, still don't like Archon's plan. Case B1 is the one I'd be worried about. Especially if some neutral town doesn't follow the plan for really good reasons. See, I think the basic assumption that town should tell the truth about their neutral/non-neutral status is flawed. I'll be interested to see Archon's simulation though. So who hasn't talked yet at all? beruru and Ash? Am I missing anyone?